Help and Ideas for wet saw heater. Wet saw pumps

Help and Ideas for wet saw heater

What i want to make is basically a flow through water heater for the wet saw. the water pump pumps into a chamber with heating element then back into saw and on blade. i dont know much about electricity except it hurts and dont mix with water.

how can i simply regulate the temp of a heating element or do the make ones that only get so hot?

woodchuck2

Hmmm, no reason why it could not be done by the right person. Why not just hook a hose up to the customers hot water tank?:laughing:

The Coastal Craftsman

What i want to make is basically a flow through water heater for the wet saw. the water pump pumps into a chamber with heating element then back into saw and on blade. i dont know much about electricity except it hurts and dont mix with water.

how can i simply regulate the temp of a heating element or do the make ones that only get so hot?

They make water bucket heaters. Perhaps you could use one of them.

Rich D.

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TileWizard

They make water bucket heaters. Perhaps you could use one of them.

I have that, and one that sits in the saw tray but it gets in the way. ITs a PIA to keep a bucket heating and keep switching the saw water with new hot water.

The Coastal Craftsman

I have that, and one that sits in the saw tray but it gets in the way. ITs a PIA to keep a bucket heating and keep switching the saw water with new hot water.

TileWizard

i could but was looking for a semi-compact all in one contraption that i can just pipe clamp onto the saw leg or arm of the saw. and i just feel like being creative

icerock drywall

What i want to make is basically a flow through water heater for the wet saw. the water pump pumps into a chamber with heating element then back into saw and on blade. i dont know much about electricity except it hurts and dont mix with water.

how can i simply regulate the temp of a heating element or do the make ones that only get so hot?

icerock drywall

What i want to make is basically a flow through water heater for the wet saw. the water pump pumps into a chamber with heating element then back into saw and on blade. i dont know much about electricity except it hurts and dont mix with water.

how can i simply regulate the temp of a heating element or do the make ones that only get so hot?

ccappaul

Dad used to use a coffee mug heater, in his coffee, in his mug of course. I think they still sell them. It was a couple of coils with a plastic handle, to boil coffe in the cup as I remember. Yep (found pics on google )

Seems like if your wet saw, like mine has a GFI, you have a safe place to start.

Maybe, the second step would be a soup can. set right in the tray close to the pump. No. No not for lunch you guys:laughing. to hold the coils in, might need a couple.

Geez, I just looked at the other posts, you have the big heater you just need to run your pump from the bucket

DuMass

I’m wondering if maybe you could adapt an old 120V inline spa heater for the purpose with some reducer bushings and barbed fittings for your vinyl tubing. These usually keep water temps at about 105 F, so shouldn’t get hot enough to damage the pump innards or water tubing. I was also thinking about something like an Insinkerator InstaHot point of use water heater, but it looks like the lowest temp they can be set to is 160 F, which I’m guessing would probably still be way too hot for your needs.

smalpierre

A heater big enough is going to draw a considerable amount of electricity. With that and the saw running on the same circuit, you might have issues tripping breakers, or burning up plug ends on your cord.

Why would you heat water in a tile saw?

angus242

A heater big enough is going to draw a considerable amount of electricity. With that and the saw running on the same circuit, you might have issues tripping breakers, or burning up plug ends on your cord.

Why would you heat water in a tile saw?

To keep this from happening when tiling in cold weather locations in the winter

Aaron Berk

In line heaters are common place for us who use oil as a vehicle fuel:jester:

Get a 2″ pc of galvanized pipe, put a reducer in one end and a tee on the other.

Orient the tee so that it flows so the long length is in line with the pipe.

Drop a water heater element in through the top of the tee extending down into the pipe stubb.

Flow your cold water through the pipe and plug your 110 volt element into a thermostat that is wire tied to the pipe stubb and then run to an extension cord.

The weird thing wrapped in foil is one such heater. but I’m running it on 220 and getting too much heat for you. thumbsup:

icerock drywall

To keep this from happening when tiling in cold weather locations in the winter

TileWizard

I’m wondering if maybe you could adapt an old 120V inline spa heater for the purpose with some reducer bushings and barbed fittings for your vinyl tubing. These usually keep water temps at about 105 F, so shouldn’t get hot enough to damage the pump innards or water tubing. I was also thinking about something like an Insinkerator InstaHot point of use water heater, but it looks like the lowest temp they can be set to is 160 F, which I’m guessing would probably still be way too hot for your needs.

i thought about using one of the inline spa heaters. good idea

A heater big enough is going to draw a considerable amount of electricity. With that and the saw running on the same circuit, you might have issues tripping breakers, or burning up plug ends on your cord.

Why would you heat water in a tile saw?

yeah usually when i have the bucket heater or tray heater plugged in i have to unplug to run the saw so i dont trip the breaker. it would be nice to have everything on a relay so that when i switch on the saw the heater cuts off.

In line heaters are common place for us who use oil as a vehicle fuel:jester:

Get a 2″ pc of galvanized pipe, put a reducer in one end and a tee on the other.

Orient the tee so that it flows so the long length is in line with the pipe.

Drop a water heater element in through the top of the tee extending down into the pipe stubb.

Flow your cold water through the pipe and plug your 110 volt element into a thermostat that is wire tied to the pipe stubb and then run to an extension cord.

The weird thing wrapped in foil is one such heater. but I’m running it on 220 and getting too much heat for you. thumbsup:

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Tile Saw Rental vs. Purchase Guide

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For serious ceramic tile work, no tool is better for cutting tile than a wet saw. While there are other ways to cut tile that may serve you well for small jobs, if you are tiling a bathroom or large floor, your work will be much easier with a tile saw.

How Wet Saws Work

A wet tile saw resembles a miniature table saw with a few important exceptions. For one, it is equipped with a special diamond-edged carbide blade that is quite different than the saw blades used to cut wood. Rather than ripping the hard ceramic material, it effectively grinds through it. The blade on a wet saw works somewhat like the thick carbide blade on an angle grinder. While not especially fast, it is the fastest way to make straight cuts on ceramic tile, porcelain, and natural stone tiles.

A tile saw’s action is different, too. A tile saw has a sliding table that feeds a tile through the overhead blade. A miter saw, for example, leaves the wood stationary, and the cutting blade moves to meet it. With a tile saw, it is the opposite: the blade is stationary, while the material moves to meet the blade.

Recirculating vs. Fresh Water Tile Saw Modes

The most unique feature of a tile saw is that it includes a reservoir of water that pumps a stream of water over the spot where the diamond blade is cutting through the tile. The water stream keeps the blade and ceramic material cool and reduces dust and flying particles.

Most tile saws incorporate two different modes of delivering water to the work material: recirculating or fresh water (though some tile saws have either recirculating or fresh water modes).

Recirculating Pump

With this mode, the wet tile saw keeps recirculating and filtering the same water from the lower basin. This eliminates the need to be hooked up to a water faucet. The downside is that chips and debris from cut tile may begin to clog up the recirculating pump’s inlet screen.

Fresh Water

With fresh water mode, the tile saw draws water straight from a water source. While this ensures a continual spray of clean water, it also means that you cannot stray too far from a water source.

Other Methods of Cutting Tile

Snap or Rail Tile Cutter

An inexpensive tool called a snap tile cutter or rail cutter is ideal for small jobs that do not require much cutting. Breaks with snap cutters can be uneven and unpredictable, leading to waste.

Snap cutters work best on thinner wall tiles; they are difficult to use on thick flooring tiles, and do not work very well at all for harder porcelain tiles or for very hard natural stone tiles. By contrast, the wet tile saw makes clean, predictable cuts on almost any ceramic, porcelain, or stone tile.

Circular Saw

An ordinary circular saw equipped with an abrasive diamond blade can cut tiles, too. Such blades are sold for exactly this purpose. This is a dry-cutting process that is messy and potentially dangerous due to flying chips and glazing fragments.

Angle Grinder

An angle grinder with a diamond blade can be used to cut small portions of tile. As with the circular saw, it is a dry-cut tool, so flying dust and debris is a problem.

Renting a Tile Saw

Cutting tile is unlike cutting other types of materials—breakage is common, and the risk of sharp, flying particles is very real. And this is not a tool that has other uses. It is used for cutting tile or stone only, nothing else.

Depending on the local tile saw rental rates, it only takes a few days of tiling before the cost of buying a moderately good saw is a better bargain than renting. As a rule of thumb, if you have only one room to tile and expect to complete the work in one or two days, then renting the tool probably makes more sense.

Available storage space might also be a consideration. With their water reservoir trays, wet tile saws are bulky, large tools. If storage space around your home is at a premium, you may prefer to rent a saw when you need it.

Buying a Tile Saw

Wet saws are specialty machines, and like table saws, they come in a range of qualities and prices. Some retailers offer wet tile saws for less than 200. Yet unlike a table saw, this is a one-use tool that you will only use when tiling.

If you have two or more rooms to tile or expect to tackle another major tiling job in the future, purchasing a good, low-cost wet tile saw is a good investment.

Another Option

If you have a small amount of tiling to do, or are simply replacing a few tiles, and would like the convenience and ease of a wet-saw, tabletop tile saws are available. These tile saws are less expensive, ranging in price from below 100 to 200. They look similar to a table saw but use a system in which the diamond blade is partially submerged in a water reservoir. They are smaller, less powerful, and somewhat slower than a conventional tile saw, but may be a good solution for the small-job DIYer, or if you are uncertain that owning a standard tile saw is right for you.

Wet Tile Saw: Best Practices and Tips

If you’re one of the many Americans choosing to complete a home improvement project and you want to use wet saw technology, you might be stressed about how complex can it be to do this properly. Even though you’ll save money by doing the project yourself, you might worry that it will cost you more if you damage the tile or your home while completing this project.

Did you know that, according to NerdWallet, homeowners spent over 500 billion between 2017 and 2019 on home improvement projects, including tile installations? Additionally, by mid-August 2020, 61% of homeowners had taken on these types of projects since March 2020.

That’s why we’ve put together this wet saw tile cutter guide. In it, you’ll learn everything you need to about using one properly.

Finally, you can use this technology right, completing your project while saving money. Read on to learn more.

Wear the Right Protection

Before you get started with using the wet tile saw, you need to wear the right protection to keep yourself safe from debris and other potential dangers.

Make sure you wear hand gloves, a face mask, and goggles.

Prepare the Wet Tile Cutter by Connecting It to Water

Whether you’re using the best wet tile saw you’ve found for sale or you’ve chosen to get a wet tile saw rental, you need to prepare it properly so you’re using it safely. To do this, you’ll need a water source. Most wet saws come with a water pump and tank, also known as a collection tray, so usually all you have to do is fill the tank and turn the pump on.

You can use the water that’s already in the collection tray, but if you don’t want to, you should empty it and refill it with fresh water, which is the more recommendable course of action.

If you choose to use old water, make sure the water pump has a filter in place. Otherwise, you could end up with water that contains unwanted particles.

Always make sure that the water is passing through the cooling system onto the tile before you begin cutting. If the pump is not working or there is an obstruction that stops the water from flowing, then you won’t be cooling your diamond blade and, depending on which blade you’re using, you might ruin it or the tile you’re cutting.

Prepare the Wet Tile Cutter by Connecting It to Electricity

Now, you’ll prepare the wet tile cutter by connecting it to electricity. This is the same rule for every wet tile saw, whether you’re using a 10-inch wet tile saw, or any other type of saw.

If you’re able to place the saw right by a power source or connect it to an outlet that has 120 voltage, do this. Because it’s a dangerous situation to have water near electricity, you need to create a drip loop when connecting your wet tile to the electric source.

When you create a drip loop, you’re placing the loop lower than the outlet and the saw. This prevents the dangerous situation where water drips along the electrical cord and toward the main power. RUBI’s tile saws have water recycling systems to minimize dripping and always design the cable used the power the machine in a safe location.

Store Wastewater in the Right Place

When using the wet tile saw, you could easily end up making a big mess, getting the water everywhere. No matter how efficiently your tile saw recycles water, some of that water is bound to get sprayed away from the machine, so it’s best to do your wet cuts outdoors.

Turn On the Water First

Before you turn on the wet tile saw, you need to turn the water supply ON first. What happens if you forget to turn on the water? You could end up creating a lot of damage to your wet tile cutter. Thankfully RUBI wet saws turn the water pump on automatically when you turn on the cutter.

After you turn on the water, adjust the water flow correctly by adjusting the water lever and faucet.

Check the Water’s Flow on the Saw

Before you start using the wet tile saw, you need to check how the water flows on it. If it isn’t flowing on it the right way, the saw won’t work properly. The whole point of having water flow over it is to reduce the heat generated by friction, which will keep your tile as well as the blade from being damaged.

Mark Where You’re Cutting

Before you cut the tile with the saw, you need to mark where you’re cutting. This way, you won’t accidentally cut the wrong area. To make the mark, use a grease or lead pencil. To maintain a straight line, using a scale helps.

Be careful while you do this. If you mark the wrong area, you’ll end up cutting the wrong part of the tile.

Keep Your Hands at the Right Distance

One of the most important tips when it comes to cutting tile with a wet tile saw is keeping your hands at the right distance. Never have your hands near the line of the blade; always keep them on the sides of the wet tile saw.

Additionally, don’t hurry while you’re cutting the tile. In addition to being safer, this will also make your cuts more accurate.

Observe the Blade When You Turn On the Power

At this point, you’re finally ready to turn on the power. As you turn on the wet tile saw, observe the blade. The water should be dripping while the blade rotates at the correct pace. If anything looks wrong, turn off the saw and check that it’s working properly as well as that the blade is correctly mounted and secured.

This will protect you and keep you from making any unwanted damage to the tile. If you notice that there’s a part that isn’t working or you don’t know what’s wrong, call up a professional. Fixing the saw yourself could be dangerous.

Begin Cutting

Once you’re ready to start cutting, be aware that the proper way to cut the tile is slowly and smoothly. If the wet saw isn’t cutting smoothly, chances are there isn’t enough water going through the wet tile saw and you need to adjust the flow accordingly.

If adjusting the flow doesn’t work or isn’t an option on the machine you’re using, stop your work, check that everything is connected properly, and readjust the water as needed. After you’ve observed the movement of the blade like you did before, start cutting again.

If there’s still resistance, there might be something wrong with the wet tile saw. In this case, call up a professional so they can fix it for you.

Check the Bucket Regularly

While you’re using the wet tile saw, you should check the bucket regularly for any impurities in the wastewater and most importantly to ensure that there is still enough water. As you cut, water will get splashed away from the machine, resulting water loss. So you need to check periodically if replenishment is necessary.

If the impurities start getting into the tubes that moved the water from the tank to the blade, they might get stuck, and this could negatively impact the sawing process. If you notice them, turn off the saw and disconnect all the electricity first. Then, take the bucket or water tray away from the machine to empty it. Return and start over again, taking all the precautions we’ve already reviewed beforehand.

Clean Regularly

In addition to checking the buildup of impurities in the bucket regularly, you also need to clean the area regularly. This way, you won’t accidentally slip on any water, knock against any piles of tiles, or stumble because of debris build-up.

If any of this were to happen, you could end up hurting yourself with the saw.

By cleaning regularly, you’ll avoid these types of dangerous accidents.

Be Safe

When Finishing Up When you’ve finally finished cutting the tile, you should shut off the wet tile saw before shutting off the water. Watch the blade, wait for it to stop spinning, and then place it safely to the side. Now, you can shut off the water.

Next, make sure the area is dry and unplug the electrical equipment from where you’ve plugged it in. Finish cleaning up, being careful to not accidentally knock into the blade (placing it somewhere safe away from the area will help).

Need Information?

Now that you’ve learned about the best practices and tips for using a wet tile saw, you might need more information. Maybe you want to learn about what the best wet tile saws are for your project. Or maybe you’re looking for other tile renovation projects.

Whatever information you need, we can help. At RUBI, we’re experts when it comes to tile cutting and home improvement projects. To learn more about how we can help, check out our tips and tricks now.

Winter Tile Cutting

Wet tile saws are essential tools for cutting ceramic tile, porcelain tile, and stone. These electric table saws do not technically use a blade at all, and instead use a diamond coated grinding wheel. Water is pumped continuously both over the wheel and over the material being cut. Not only does this water source keep the grinding wheel from overheating, it produces a cleaner chip free cut while reducing dust and debris. Wet tiles and stones are less brittle and easier to cut. This results in a cleaner, fresher cut than if you were using a dry tile cutter.

External Bucket Reservoirs

Even though wet tile saws include a water reservoir tray at the base of the saw, many professionals find it more efficient to place their pump into a clean 5 gallon bucket. Using an external bucket reservoir makes it easier to keep clean water entering the pump instead of using the sediment filled run-off. 5 gallon buckets significantly increase your water capacity as well so you can cut for longer without refilling. Most find them easier to fill, drain, and use than reservoir trays.

Winter Tile Cutting Problems

Operating a wet tile saw during the winter presents obvious challenges. When the temperatures drop, so do the temperatures of your water reservoir. Cutting tile after tile with frigid water pouring around your hands and spraying around your face is a miserable way to complete a project. Plus when the temperatures drop below freezing, reservoirs, pumps, and supply lines freeze up which renders your wet tile saw useless.

Tiles and stone also become more brittle in cold temperatures. It is important to find a warm location to store your materials to reduce costly waste and produce higher quality results. Keeping your tiles, stones, grouts, and mortars at warm temperatures makes them easier to cut, produces better cuts, and makes them easier to set, install, and cure.

Past Solution Attempts

Desperate to avoid costly downtime during a winter off-season, tile and stone cutters have turned to many different methods in the past to keep their wet tile saws running during the winter months.

Move Inside

On paper, the idea to simply move your cutting station inside is very tempting. However, most professionals have found that clients, home owners, and other sub-contractors cannot tolerate the mess that accompany wet tile saw operation. Even if you attempt to contain the messy run-off, it is very difficult to control all the spray and mist exuding from the saw itself. Some construct time-consuming wet saw tents or use plastic kiddie pools to try and contain water output but…spoiler alert…water still gets everywhere.

Chemical Additives

Others have tried adding window washer fluid, anti-freeze, or even alcohol to their water reservoir to prevent freezing. However, working with frigid water constantly streaming over your hands and misting your face is a real productivity buster. Not to mention inhaling antifreeze mist is not the safest way to work. Chemical additives produce another negative side effect. The chemical residue they leave behind on every single tile and stone prevents thin-set mortars from bonding when it comes time for you to actually set them.

Immersion Heaters

Immersion heaters are metal heating rods or coils that can be inserted into your water reservoir. These heaters do not have thermostatic controls and will continuously heat the water as long as they are plugged in. Overheating your water reservoir can not only damage your pump but produce temperatures that are painful to work with. Babysitting your heater is no way to stay productive on the job-site. Some immersion heaters are also unsafe to use in poly or plastic buckets due to the fact that as the water level drops they can come in contact with and melt your bucket.

Finally An Effective Solution: Bucket Heating Blankets

Heating your water reservoir is the best method for keeping your wet tile saw running all winter long. Warm water reduces material brittleness and produces better, cleaner cuts. Heated water will also keep your hands warm while cutting, thus increasing your productivity. However, not all bucket heaters are created equal. Externally wrapping your bucket reservoir with an electrically powered, insulated heating blanket is a safer and more energy efficient heating method than immersion heaters.

Powerblanket Winter Tile Cutting Solutions

Powerblanket specializes in winter construction solutions. We pride ourselves on engineering safe, efficient temperature control products for every project. We can protect your tools and materials, save you time and money, and get you back to work.

Bucket Heaters

Our heavily insulated bucket heating blankets distribute even, consistent heat around your entire water reservoir. By eliminating hot and cold spots you can be sure your water temperature is comfortable. Our bucket heaters allow you to regulate your water reservoir temperatures without babysitting your equipment to avoid overheating. Portable and easy to install, they will save you time and money and get you back to cutting all winter long.

Drum Heaters

Increase your wet tile saw’s duty cycle by using a larger water reservoir for bigger projects. Upgrade to a drum or barrel reservoir and Powerblanket has you covered, literally. Our heavy duty, fully insulated drum and barrel heaters will keep your water reservoir temperatures exactly where you want them.

Hot Box Heaters

Cutting cold tiles and stone can cause your materials to shatter. Luckily, Powerblanket has just the answer. Our Hot Box bulk material warmers provide even, consistent heat to everything stored within. Avoid unnecessary waste and ensure your grouts, mortars, tiles, and stones are safe and ready to use by storing them in a warm, weather protected enclosure. Hot boxes are portable and easy to install and use in storage facilities, work vehicles, or on job sites.

Allow Powerblanket to eliminate the “off-season” and help you work comfortably and efficiently no matter what mother nature throws your way. Contact us at 855.972.2314 or [email protected] to find the perfect solutions for your winter construction needs.

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